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suggestions on complexity of Roamino Upgrade

August 11, 2015, 8:10 pm
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I've swapped out the hard drive in my first Tivo - a Series 2, and then when I upgraded to a series 4 - Premier I kicked out the stock drive and replaced that one too..

I'm considering getting a Roamino basic, and not looking to break the bank on a HUGE hard drive (ie. most likely will get a 2TB)

Will this require any imaging as I have had to do with my previous hard drive upgrades? I've checked out a few threads and more of them are discussing steps that are required to take advantage of 3TB - 6TB+ sized drives.

If I splurge and pick up a 4TB hard drive it looks like I can follow the steps in one of the threads here to expand the drive and take full advantage of the size.


Thanks!!
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Newegg 3 x 3tb wd red =$299

August 15, 2015, 8:36 am
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Drive Upgrade in Roamio, impact to Mini?

August 21, 2015, 9:17 am
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I have a Roamio OTA w/the standard 500GB (75h) drive. Connected to that is a TiVo MINI that periodically allocates a tuner from the Roamio. I want to upgrade the Roamio's drive to a 2TB drive.
  1. What do I need to do to make sure that the Mini continues to function on the upgraded TiVo? I'm assuming that I just need to make sure it finds it's activation at tivo.com and then it will allow the MINI to connect. Is assumption correct?
  2. I'm NOT worried about retaining any of the recordings from the Roamio's current drive. So from other threads it sounds like all I have to do is pop out the existing drive and pop in the new one.
  3. Are there performance characteristics that I need to be worried about for the new drive? This is what I bought.

TIA
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Roamio upgrade, did I kill the HDD partition?

September 2, 2015, 7:23 pm
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I'm new to this upgrade stuff. I am trying to dry run this with my essentially virgin 500 GB from the Roamio. It only has a couple incomplete recordings on it. I did the brute(blank) swap to 1TB on the day the unit arrived.

I'm trying to test drive upgrade/copy with the 500 GB in prep for the 3 TB drive arriving tomorrow. But all the tools I try with this drive in the PC aren't happy with it.

fdisk -l returns "no valid partition data" (I guess this is expected)

(mfslive) pdisk -l returns "bad data in block 15"

winMFS returns "wrong Tivo partition signature"
I also saw one indication that the (Tivo) drive was "byte swapped"

(I forget) complained about an invalid apple partition

I was able to create a ddrescue copy of it, but I haven't verified that it will work in the Tivo, I will try that tomorrow.

Did I kill the 500 GB drive's partition table by booting windows with it hooked up to one of the PC's SATA ports? I did this before finding out that the Tivo had is own unique file system (MFS)

I still have the working 1 TB drive, but don't want to kill it also so I'm trying to debug what happened.
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Roamio Plus upgrade questions

September 17, 2015, 10:48 am
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I finally got myself a new TiVo a little while ago, and already I'm quickly running out of space, so I figure it's probably time to upgrade the hard drive (as I've done for several of my previous TiVos).

But I have some questions first:

1) With my prior upgrades, I always would save the original drive so that if/when the new drive failed in the future, I could use the old one to copy the software to a new drive - is it true that I won't need to do that with the Roamio, that putting a clean drive in will automatically set up the correct software?

2) It currently has the stock 1 TB drive - without dealing with an external enclosure, can I add a second drive (interally) or in order to upgrade do I need to completely replace the drive with a larger one (and in the process, copy everything from the current to the new)?


Thanks!
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Transfer shows from TiVo Premier to new TiVo Romeo plus

September 19, 2015, 2:17 pm
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hello, I searched and hope I'm not duplicating an existing post. I currently have a TiVo Premier (2) Tuner with a 2 TB drive I painfully upgraded 2 years ago. It's 50 percent full with shows and movies I'm not yet ready to get rid of. I have a. Second TiVo Premier (4) tuners standard drive but also full of good stuff. I could transfer the shows I want to save from the TiVo P4 to the older and larger P2 but I have roughly a TB of shows and movies I would like to put on my Romeo Plus . I'll be putting a 6tb drive into the new Romeo plenty of space. I've also purchased 2 TiVo Mini's ! Love the idea only one cable card to rent no matter how many Mini's I get !

If anyone has an answer I'd sure appreciate it.
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Tivo Series 3 (not HD) hard drive failure

September 22, 2015, 9:27 am
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I have a Tivo Series 3 (not HD) purchased in February 2003. I upgraded the hard drive to 750GB and have had very good luck up to this point. Twelve years later it seems that the hard drive is finally failing. The Tivo freezes and even when I pull the plug and force a reboot, it restarts but immediately freezes again.

I just purchased a 2 TB WD AV-GP WD20EURX from Amazon and hope to replace the old drive.

Since my last upgrade, there seem to be more upgrade choices. I am comfortable using either linux based MFSLive or WinMFS, but am not sure which would be more appropriate for what I am trying to accomplish. What is confounding my decision even more is that it seems mfslive.org is down, so downloading those files and accessing those forums are difficult/impossible.

I would prefer to try to keep my recordings and cable card serial numbers if possible, so I prefer to clone my failing drive. But if necessary, I still have my backup image from when I initially upgraded.

I can easily download MFSLive v1.4 and it seems that I may be able to get v2.0 off of sourceforge, but 3.2 does not appear to be available. Also I have an old version of WinMFS on my computer that I downloaded in 2008.

Which tool and version do you think would help me best achieve success?

Thank you
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Sorry could not find answer on Tivo HD

September 23, 2015, 9:20 am
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Issue: It appears the drive was mirrored as the new drive works just fine but still only allows about 20 hours of HD recording.

Software version 11.0m-01-2-652
Series 3
Old: Tivo HD 160gb drive
New: Western Digital 2 TB WD AV-GP SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM AV Hard Drive WD20EURX

Followed instructions from rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/#linux

cat /proc/partitions (Showed correct drives and sizes)

Printed them off, copied command and put ^ where spaces were to be so I was exactly like copied off page when I input the command.

read:backup^-qTao^-^/dev/sda^|^restore^-s^128^-xzpi^-^/dev/sdb
inputted:backup -qTao - /dev/sda | restore -s 128 -xzpi - /dev/sdb

hdparm -k 1 -B 1 -M 128 /dev/sdb

I popped it out again and checked partitions, the new drive has same partitions as the original as well as 1 more at the end with 1.85tb space showing for it as like sdb17
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Does InstantCake work with TiVo HD SATA?

September 24, 2015, 5:05 pm
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When I could not find a copy of WinMFS yesterday, I searched for a way to copy a failing TiVo HD drive. I got frustrated in the search & decided to spend the $40 for an Instantcake CD. My system has no IDE ports. The CD booted ok but when it asked to identify the CD drive (and HDD), I plugged in the value based on the SATA port they were connected to. It did not find the CD so I tried searching each SATA port using a command mentioned on the instant cake instructions. It could not find the CD. It seems odd since it boots just fine.

Has anyone had any luck with the instant cake cd for any SATA series tivo's?
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mfslive.org down?

September 27, 2015, 8:22 am
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Just curious if anyone has heard a reason why mfslive.org is down and whether it's just temporary or permanent?

Scott
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Extend space on cloned Tivo HD drive

October 9, 2015, 11:25 am
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In the absence of MFSLive (website down), I decided to take matters into my own hands. I used an Umbuntu live cd, and cloned my original 160 GB drive to a new 1000 GB drive using dd. Everything was cloned just fine, and the drive is up and running in the Tivo. However, I only have my original 160 GB of storage space available (~20 hrs HD), not the full 1 TB. How do I increase the partition to allow Tivo to use the entire drive? I saw the MFS Tools solution, but wasn’t sure how to perform just this one step. Any thoughts? Other solutions? This is a Tivo Series 3 (HD).
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Virgin Media UK Cisco CT8685 1TB

October 10, 2015, 9:05 am
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Does any one have experience of this TiVo? I had a hard drive failure and managed to rescue virtually all data to a 3TB drive using ddrescue so I have a 1TB image on a 3TB drive which I want to expand but not having any joy.

Both the original and rescued drives boot BUT it doesn't seem to have a standard partition table.

JMFS-rev104 (from rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade) says No TiVo drives
MFSLive 1.4 sees partitions sda1-15,sbd1-15,sdc1-15,sdd1-15,sde1-15 All fake
MFS Tools 3.2 can't see the partition table.
SystemRescueCD doesn't see a partition table.

Should the partitions be visible to the booted OS. E.g. sda1-15?
What tools can I use to print the first sector?

Cheers
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need help restoring series 2 from image

October 10, 2015, 1:15 pm
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Hi - I need some instructions on how to build a new Series 2 drive (540) from an existing image. I have no idea what software to use, etc. I did this years ago and have had a senior moment, and completely forgot.
I have all the tools on discs - mfs 1.4, winmfs 9.3, etc etc, and also have the image for a 540 series two.
Just don't have a clue how to proceed....help?

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Bolt HDD development

October 12, 2015, 4:30 am
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There's a number of upgrade attempts on the Bolt already with some curious results. I haven't seen enough hard data though to tell me that it's a prudent method, and some data that tells me it's not advisable.

Until all the data is in, my personal & professional opinion is that the Roamio tools should not be used on Bolts that are going to be actually used outside of testing/experimental/development purposes.

Nonetheless, there is likely a way to upgrade the Bolt safely but those with the skills don't have the interest, money, and/or data.
So this thread is for developers or those helping the developers bridge that gap.
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Tivo Premiere-HDD replacement w/3TB issue

October 20, 2015, 9:27 pm
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My Tivo Premiere had a 2TB WD AV-GP drive that failed the other day. It got a severe error message and the Tivo would just loop.The drive failed the WD diagnostics.

I bought a new WD 3TB AV_GP as a replacement. After cloning the original 320GB HDD to the 3TB with JMFS, I installed it. The box would just loop at starting up.

After doing some searching I think I know what I have to do but was hoping if someone would be as so kind to make sure I'm going in the right direction.

I think I need to have the Tivo update to the newest software. Then clone that 320 GB drive to a spare 1 TB drive. Then clone that drive to the 3TB.

Also JMFS seems really slow(3 Hours) where DVRBARS was pretty fast (minutes for modified and truncated under an hour for full). Is one better than the other to clone a drive?

Thanks in advance.
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3TB Upgrade shows 1TB worth of Space

October 23, 2015, 9:09 am
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I may have done something wrong trying to upgrade a 320GB Premiere drive to 3TB. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

In JMFS I:

1. Updated the original drive to the newest Tivo download.
2. I copied the original 320GB drive to a 1TB drive and expanded it.
3. Copied the 1TB drive to the 3TB drive and expanded it.

After the drive was put back in the Tivo it reported it had 157 hours of HD recording...the size of a 1TB drive.

I connected the drive back to JMFS thinking I forgot to expand but it indicated that I had already done it. It says the MFS volume is 927.37GB and the Tivo reports it has 2.72TB recording space.

Any ideas of what I did wrong? Maybe I need to do it differently or beg someone on here for an Image I can expand? I love learning new things but if my wife does not get the Tivo back soon I'm a dead man

Thank you

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Upgrading 2 Premieres to 3TB results in different capacities: 479 and 430 hrs

October 26, 2015, 9:01 pm
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I recently upgraded a Premiere TCD746500 to a 3TB drive. After the upgrade, Tivo reported 430 HD hours recording capacity. I decided to upgrade my Premiere XL, and after that upgrade Tivo reported 479 HD hours recording capacity.

I used the rosswalker.co.uk premiere upgrade method.

I took screen shots along the way, and noticed that during the upgrade of the 500GB premiere, after expanding the drive it resulted in a 2.45TB capacity. For the XL, it expanded to 2.72TB.

I'm puzzled why the different results. Is there something that can be done to take full advantage of the 3TB drive on the regular premiere?
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Any way to get a copy of WinMFS?

November 1, 2015, 8:48 am
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Any way to get a copy of WinMFS?

With mfslive.org down, any way to get a copy of WinMFS? I have to replace a dying 1 TB hard drive on my life-timed Tivo HD. That was the last tool I used way back in 2010 and I'm more familiar with it.

Thanks in advance,

MMole
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Idiot's Guide to Upgrading HD?

November 18, 2015, 8:26 am
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Hey all...

Relatively new cord cutter, very new to TiVo.

About 8 months ago I purchased a Roamio OTA. I figured that if and when the time came, I'd just expand the space by throwing on an external HD.

Well, the time is now. I've got 93% full on the HD. But upon further investigation (which is always good to do _after_ the fact, he said, sarcastically), I'm finding that external HDs are frowned upon. Only a handful are "compatible", they're 1TB at most (as far as I can tell), and it adds an extra point of failure that will wipe out all recordings due to striping across both the internal and external drive.

With that, I bought me a 3TB internal drive (Western Digital 3 TB WD AV-GP SATA III Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM AV Hard Drive WD30EURX from Amazon) and an external enclosure.

I'm looking to back up the contents of the existing HD inside the Roamio, copy them over to the new 3TB WD, and pop the new drive into the Roamio.

I've googled, and I'm a bit confused/overwhelmed. I'm primarily Mac, but I do have access to a Windows machine. As far as I can tell, there's:
  • kmttg
  • MFSR
  • cTiVo
  • DvrBARS

I'm not sure which one would be "best" for me to use, or if I'd even need more than one.

If it were just a matter of swapping out the hard drives, I could handle that. Hardware-wise I'm not concerned.

But I'd really love to do this without losing the recordings (and ideally, settings and season passes) that are on the existing drive.

If somebody can help out an old man who just doesn't have a lot of time to properly research (further than what I've already done), I'd be eternally grateful.

All I'm looking to do is: remove old HD, copy contents from it to a computer, copy contents from computer to new HD, install new HD. From what I've read so far, it doesn't seem like it's quite that straightforward?

I am more than happy to donate to any of the projects that I'd end up using.

EDIT TO ADD: Hell, if there's anyone in the Phoenix area who knows how to do this, I'd be willing to pay for your time (as well as contributing to whatever projects end up being used).

Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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Newegg has 3TB WD Green for $85

November 24, 2015, 1:57 pm
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