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Rescuing my Premiere

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My Premiere died last week with a GSOD. I have a ton of 2tb drives lying around, so I attempted to hook up the drive and back it up.. JMFS wouldn't even see it as a tivo disk. I couldn't find anyone locally who'd let me borrow their unit for an afternoon to make a copy of their disk, so I ended up ordering one from weaknees. I just ordered the smallest available since I have a spare larger drive already in the closet. The replacement drive came today, and I was able to copy it to the 2TB drive, expand it, and supersize it. My question is this, are all my season passes gone? If I fire my tivo up with this new drive, will all my season passes go the way of the dodo? If I log in to tivo.com right now, I can see them all in the season pass manager. Can I move them to one of my other tivos and then move them back? What are my options here?

Thanks,

Shad

Hughes SD-DVR80 reboot loop after second upgrade

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A few years ago i upgraded my Hughes SD-DVR80 from an 80GB drive to a 500GB drive using MFSLive with no issues. A few weeks ago i started seeing pixelization and audio issues along with random reboots so i figured it was time for a new drive. As my system uses PATA i dug around and found that most series 2 systems will work with a SATA drive with an adapter. So i figured i would go with a new 1TB SATA drive but i found because i already expanded my drive once that MFSLive will not expand it again. However i found that WinMFS had expansion of already expanded drives built in so i decided to upgrade again. With the background info covered here's what i have tried and where i am now.

I bought a 1TB WD WD10EARX from BestBuy and an SATA to IDE adapter from amazon (if needed i can post the url later as i don't have enough posts for links)

I used WinMFS MfsCopy to copy and expand my 500GB drive and when putting the drive in the Tivo it froze at the welcome screen. This lead me to the possibility that i had issues with WD intellapark so i disabled it with wdidle3 but after it was disabled the Tivo got stuck in a reboot loop at the welcome screen.

Next i tried just restoring the drive with no media to see if the copy went bad but that too ended up in a reboot loop at the welcome screen. So i put the 500GB drive back in and everything works.

So i figured it must be either the drive or the SATA to IDE adapter. So i bought the Weaknees SATA to IDE adapter (and even their IDE cable...) that is supposed to work with my SD-DVR80 however the adapter and the WD hard drive gave me the same results, welcome screen reboot loop.

So given that not all drives work adapters and Tivos' i figured i would test a Seagate drive so i tried the copy again with a 1TB Seagate ST1000DM003 drive and have the same results.

So in summery i have tried two drives with two different SATA to IDE adapters with both a full copy of my 500GB drive and just a OS/kernel no media copy and each drive with each adapter and cables in all possible configurations each configuration changes the time the loop takes to reboot some very fast (mainly with longer or older cables) some take up to 10 mins.

Also the disk copies where done on an intel chipset motherboard with PATA using the SATA to IDE adapters.

At this point i'm out of ideas with the hardware i have and it turns out that the random reboots may have been from a bug that DirectTv has informed me about and is refunding me 10.00 for the issue.... ;)

To clarify the reboot loop is just on the welcome screen it never gets to "almost there..." and the front panel led never changes to orange which as far as i know that means its not getting to the point where it loads the kernel.

Any help or ides on how to get out of the reboot loop would be appreciated.

Seems like a hard drive issue, but...

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MY Series 3 HD TCD648250B is stuck on "welcome, powering up...". I had a WD 300GB drive here that is known to work. I downloaded WINMFS and ran a copy . It took about an hour and said successful, but when I put in the 300GB, it's the same thing. Welcome, powering up... and after a few minutes, reboot.

I took my Fluke to the main power supply connector and got the following voltages while on:
Orange 3.07vdc
Gray 7.64vdc
Red 5.08vdc
Yellow 12.43vdc

Seems ok doesn't it? Could my hard drive be messed up to a point where making a copy isn't good enough? How do I make a new drive from scratch? Saving my old shows isn't that big a deal, but I want to watch TV tonight!

Toshiba SD-H400

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I recently decided to upgrade the hard drive in my aging Toshiba SD-H400. I've imaged a new drive using Instant Cake for my device. No issues there.

Previously when using the TiVo I used my TiVo Plus trial and was able to switch the Now Playing list into a folder view that put each show in a separate folder. When I returned to TiVo Basic mode the folders remained. Now that I have reimaged a new drive I've lost the folders. Is there any way to change the Now Playing List view without signing up for TiVo Plus for a month?

Another option I'd considered is cloning my original TiVo drive with a tool like Clonezilla then extending the partition out to fill the new bigger drive. Having not carefully examined the drive with a partition tool I don't even know what kind of partitions TiVo's use, are they standard FAT32 or ext3. Are their any other strange things I should look out for. Ie: bootloader, or MRB settings. Has anyone cloned an existing drive, would it work?

MFSBACKUP Question

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I know how to use mfstools but one question. Will mfsbackup not create a backup.bak bigger than 2 gig? I have a Terabyte Tivo drive with 115gig of recorded shows and such. No matter how I format or don't format my backup drive (250gig), mfsbackup always stops the backup at 2gig. Just need to know if mfstool has a version that will support creating a backup bigger than 2gig?

Premiere Boot Loop

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So I decided to upgrade my Premiere's hard drive from stock to a 2TB WD20EARX. I used JMFS to copy, then expand, then supersize. I put the new drive in the Premiere and it wouldn't boot. It would go "Welcome! Starting Up..." for 10-20 seconds then all the lights would flash and it would reboot back into the same screen. So I read a little and figured that the culprit must be the idle time on these newer WD drives. So I used wdidle3 /D, which still had the TiVo rebooting. And wdidle3 /S300 had the same affect. So I thought "I'll try the original drive" and it had the same restarting problem. I was very careful when removing and inserting drives into the unit. I can't even get a kickstart code in. Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks in advanced!

Tivo only showing 21 HD hours after upgrading

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I have a Series3 HD TiVo (TCD652160).
I have upgraded the original 160GB Hard Drive to a 500GB using 'winmfs' Mfscopy.
No problems

I verified in the system settings that it stated I had up to 75 HD hours.

It has now been a couple of months and I started running out of space to record.

I checked back in the system settings and now it states that I only have 21 HD hours.

I restarted the Tivo and it still says the same.

Does the model of the Tivo reset this or could it be a software upgrade?
Software Version is: 11.Ok-01-2-652

Any ideas?

Anyone still using the GXCEBOT?

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Call me a romantic or Luddite, but I'm still using the good 'ol DirecTV GXCEBOT Series 1 in a spare bedroom. Am I the last one? The power supply finally blew and I've got a new one on the way. :) I think the reason it lasted so long was because of annual/semi annual cleaning and inspections. A little compressed air and making sure the fan is still turning goes a long way!

winmfs

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I posted this question in the TiVo help forum and it was suggested that I head over to this forum with my question, so I'll give it a try here:

I'm trying to make a back-up hard drive for my Toshiba TX20 using winmfs, and I connected the TX20's IDE 250GB HD to my XP OS computer with both the TX and my computer HD jumpered to cable select, with my computer HD being in the master position on my IDE cable and the TX drive in the slave position, and after starting my computer I can't get out of BIOS and into Windows. Any suggestions?

Hi From Nashvegas!

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I’m a machinist from Nashville, TN (okay, just north of there). I’ve been listening to the PoI podcast for a couple of years now and thought I’d mosey on over to the boards to see what they were like. :cool:

Premiere HD upgrade with jmfs failed

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I tried to upgrade my Premiere HD from a 1T drive to a 2T drive and didn't quite get it right. I'm hoping for a suggestion here to keep from having to go back to an older hard drive.

The version of JMFS that I have been using is 1.04. Both drives are WD AV drives and the new one did not require the parking disabling.

I work with Windows PCs daily and know them fairly well. I know very little about Linux and that has limited my options.

I tried to be clever (my big error!) and used my hard disk duplicator to image the 1T to the 2T drive. My (erroneous) assumption was that I could do the Expand after that copy.

I was short of time (too many household members grumbling about TiVo being down), so I threw the 2T drive in the system after the imaging and figured I would do the Expand later. Another bad choice.

The 2T drive works just fine, but only has 1T total capacity. That's what I expected after the imaging.

Eventually, I removed the 2T drive and tried to do the Expand. The software said that it failed. The numbers that it gave for disk size made it clear that it was only looking at about 1T of disk space.

My next "clever" trick was to try to copy the 2T drive to a 1.5T drive that I had on hand (I didn't have a spare 2T). JMFS objected that the source drive was smaller than the source, but I told it to go ahead. I figured that the 2T drive was only partitioned out to 1T, so it should fit. The copy ended with an error (it ran out of space), but the 1.5T drive seemed to work fine in the TiVo. It booted just fine and I was able to retrieve a random assortment of recordings that I had.

I tried doing the Expand on the 1.5T and got the same sort of error as I did with the 2T drive. Just as a test, I tried running Supersize. It claimed to work without error, but Expand still wouldn't work. I put the 2T back in the TiVo.

As a test, I used JMFS to copy the original 1T drive to the 1.5T. It too 6-8 hours (?), but ended without error. I told it to do the Expand and it completed without error. I never tested this drive, but I am assuming that this process worked properly. If only I had not been "clever" with the disk imager originally!

So..... as I see it, I have two solutions if I want the 2T to work. One is to start over, copy from the 1T to my 2T, and lose the last month or two of recordings. (It has been that long since I started this process.) With my video provider (Frontier), it seems that nearly everything that I record is protected, so I can't just copy these programs over to my other TiVo.

My hope is that there is some clever person here who can tell me some commands to execute on the 2T drive that will allow it to Expand to use the full drive. (Yeah... and I hope to win the Lottery!)

I can recopy to the 1.5T and try any suggestions with little risk. If I can Expand the 1.5T from 1T to the full 1.5T then I would expect to have no problem copying it back to the 2T and expanding it there.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer constructive suggestions on this.

Premiere4 with James expanded 2tb drive-add ext drive?

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I've looked all around and can't find definitive answer for Premieres

If I've upgraded using Jmfs 1.04 my premiere4 int drive to 2tb, can I plug a 1tb external drive in to expand to 3tb total automatically?

Thanks

Premier upgrade failure - Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)

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I recently purchased a Tivo Premier and a WD20EURS hard drive from Amazon with the intention of upgrading the Tivo hard drive. After considerable research online, I downloaded the premiere_linux_inc_supersize_jmfs-rev104.iso and the wdidle.iso and burned them each to cds. I attached the original Tivo hard drive and the WD20EURS (straight out of the box; no formatting) to my computer and booted with the jmfs disk.
After a bit the screen, where choice of Copy, Expand, Supersize, Exit etc. is shown, appeared, but with the “Copy” selection grayed out along with the msg that only one drive was attached. I had noticed on start up that the
WD20EURS was making a clicking sound; i.e. four clicks, slight delay, and then a fifth click repeated over the period of about a minute followed by apparent complete shutdown of the drive. Repeated boots produced the same results.
I figured I had received a bad drive, so I exchanged it for a new one. Much to my chagrin, I got the same results when attempting to copy to the new drive; same messages, same noise. I removed and installed the new drive in a second computer where Disk Management listed the drive with a red X with the message that the drive must be initialized. Upon selecting “initialize” I get the msg “Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check). During the period the new drive was installed in the second computer, it was clicking and starting up and shutting down.
To try and determine if it was the WD20EURS or a problem with my computer, I successfully initiated copy to another SATA drive, so apparently the jmfs program works.
What is going on? The odds that I would receive two bad drives with the same symptoms would be infinitesimal.
Help!

Performing TiVo Hard-Drive work with a Gigabyte Motherboard PC

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I'm the (un)fortunate owner of a PC which has a Gigabyte motherboard (GA-EX58-UD4P to be exact). I need to perform some tasks with the hard drives in both of my TiVos:

1. Series 2 (Toshiba RS-TX20), with a Seagate 750GB DB35 hard drive. It is showing symptoms of picture freezing, followed by rebooting. I'll check for bad caps, but I suspect the hard drive, since I can get it to freeze and reboot at the exact same spot in a recording. I was planning to use SeaTools to run diagnostics on the drive.

2. Series 4 Premiere, with the stock 500GB drive. I've purchased a 2TB WD20EURS drive to increase the recording capacity. The procedure looks pretty straight-forward using the jmfs tools.

Before diving in to these tasks, I need to know what precautions to take due to the Gigabyte motherboard. I've done some reading about the HPA issue, but I think I need some specific instructions on how to prevent the possibility of messing up my TiVo hard drives.

Thanks for any helpful information (or a pointer to the information).

Series 3 hard drive replacement

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I have a Series 3 (OLED) that needs a new hard drive. This unit will be used in a basement rec room and not heavily used. Therefore, I just want to get an inexpensive replacement. Another 250GB drive would be fine with me. I also have a Series 3 image. I have used it for another Series 3 I have (along with WinMFS) to restore it to working condition. It worked great so I can prepare this one myself as well.

Trying to find a CURRENT list of good replacement drives to pick from. My initial research seems to indicate that I should go with a Western Digital 3.0Gb/s SATA "Blue" Caviar brand/model. Does this sound about right? I realize its probably gonna be hard to find a NEW 250GB SATA drive as this size is probably not really made anymore so can go with something larger if needed (320GB or 500GB) & the price is right. Been looking at Newegg.com, Amazon and TigerDirect. I'm wondering if this about the best I'm gonna be able to do:

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...l+SATA+3.5+3.0

Again, I'm not looking to spend a lot, but also wanted to find a CURRENT list of good hard drive replacement brands (if available).

JMFS 1.04 and WD Expander - Fails

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Ok, as you know, I expanded my Premiere 4 to 2tb, works good!

I said I would get an expander. WD, certified for tivo.

I plugged it in, it went throught its 'adding space' messages, and rebooted. Upon reboot, it went into the expand space message again

So the conclusion is that you CANNOT add an expander to a JMFS 1.04 upgraded internal disk.

I'm sure it is a partition thing.

My thoughts...

I think an 'Apple_free' partition (as partition 15) needs to be made to force a partition 16/17 pair as free. Which Tivo must use to add an expander.

I think JMFS needs to figure out how to add a coalesced partition. IE, add the new expanded space into the other MFS region on the disk. Not adding a new MFS region. This might require using JMFS on a no-data disk.

What model tivo is this HDD for?

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So I'm getting into Spring Cleaning mode here.. I have a couple spare Tivo HDD pulls in a box in my closet.. I'd like to sell them (not doing me any good) but need to be able to identify them properly. Is there an easy way to identify which model image a Tivo HDD currently has on it? (I'm guessing using one of the upgrade boot CD procedures might be able to, but I'm not sure what to use or which commands to enter- I'm not looking to make a copy, just identify each.)

At the moment, I have three: two of them have writing on them identifying the model, so that's easy. A third just has "TIVO" written on it..

Maxtor QuickVIEW DiamondMax Plus 8 ATA/133 HDD 40GB (6K040L03102P3 / NAR61HA0)
- "Orig 540 Tivo" written on it

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 250GB 7200 RPM SATA (ST3250318AS)
- "Tivo HD Stock HDD" written on it

Western Digital Perfomer WD800 80GB (WD800AW-00DDK1)
- Only has "TIVO" written on it

thanks!
..dane

New WD20EURS 2TB drive seems "loud"

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I purchased a WD20EURS 2TB drive to put in my new (well, refurbed) Premiere. The upgrade went fine, but when I fired things back up, there is a very noticeable "hum" coming from the drive. I know it's the drive because I noticed a similar "hum" from the original 500GB hard drive, but it was much quieter and tolerable.

My window to do an exchange with Amazon is closing in a couple days. Before I request an exchange, I thought I'd ask whether others have noticed this issue? Is there any Acoustic Management software I can try to see if it would make a difference?

Thanks for the help.

Replacement Premiere coming, what to do next?

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I have a replacement Premiere coming due to a loud fan issue. In my current Premiere, I've already installed a WD20EURS 2TB drive. I'll obviously reinstall the original 500GB drive back in the current Premiere before I send it back, but I'm wondering if I can just drop in the WD20EURS into the new Premiere as soon as I receive it?

The only potential issue that I think I'll have is that the M-card "pairing" information is stored on the hard-drive, but I'm installing the hard-drive into new hardware. Can I just boot up the new Premiere with the WD20EURS, then call the Comcast M-card number to "re-pair" the M-card with the new hardware?

Any other issues to be aware of?

Thanks.

possible?

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New guy here... i have a very old hughes version directv tivo unit. i want to replace it with a only old philips dvr 7000. before i jump into the replace/contact provider mode, is there any way to bench test the unit i have to confirm it works?

thanks
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